[Sysops-list] Internet Bandh

Wed Mar 21 21:43:25 NPT 2007

I think , the internet should be cut-off for govt. agencies only if we are 
to support the protest.

Regards,
Nishant
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>   1. Re: Finally-Internet Bandh (Manoj Rajkarnikar)
>   2. Re: Finally-Internet Bandh (Kishor Panth)
>   3. Re: Finally-Internet Bandh (Vicky Shrestha)
>   4. Internet Outage and ISPs support (Kishor Panth)
>   5. Re: Internet Outage and ISPs support (Probin)
>   6. Re: Finally-Internet Bandh (Bipin Gautam)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:29:10 +0545 (NPT)
> From: Manoj Rajkarnikar <manoj at vianet.com.np>
> Subject: Re: [Sysops-list] Finally-Internet Bandh
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> On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Samit Jana wrote:
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>> Finally we are also following the same Annoying and Worst culture of
>> pressurizing Govt...
>> Does this means that "Bandh" is the only option left to get things done
>> in Nepal? I am impressed :)
>
> The trend began long back in the first democratic session and it seems the
> govt no longer look at the current issues except the bandhs :|
>
>>
>> Samit
>>
>> Vicky Shrestha wrote:
>> > Yes. Supporting a good cause is definitely the right thing to do :)
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> >
>> > Vicky Shrestha
>> > vickysh at wlink.com.np
>> >
>> > On Mar 19, 2007, at 10:02 PM, Samit Jana wrote:
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>> >> Are we doing the right thing?
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>> >> Samit
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> Manoj Rajkarnikar
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> Systems Department
> Vianet Communications Pvt Ltd
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> (PH)977-1-5546410
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:09:36 +0545
> From: Kishor Panth <kishor at lahai.com>
> Subject: Re: [Sysops-list] Finally-Internet Bandh
> To: sysops-list at npix.net.np
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> I think this is a way of showing the government that hey look we are also
> annoyed by this.
> But the thing is that the government is not even effected by this and as
> Gaurab says that if the interenet connection is down for the diplomatic
> missions I am sure that its not done.
>
> So let do those protests that directly hits the government not the general
> people. As Indivar says that there is hardly any effect to the government.
>
>
> Kishor
>
>
>
> On Tuesday 20 March 2007 08:47, Gaurab Raj Upadhaya wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Samit Jana wrote:
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>> > Finally we are also following the same Annoying and Worst culture of
>> > pressurizing Govt...
>> > Does this means that "Bandh" is the only option left to get things done
>> > in Nepal? I am impressed :)
>>
>> I wonder if the ISPs have also cut off Internet to their most important
>> customers (diplomatic missions, INGOs etc). ;-).
>>
>> May be the ISPs should only cut off the Internet aess to the government
>> agencies, and not others. the public is still going to suffer with this
>> bandh. given all the load shedding, there is already a small window to 
>> get
>> productive work done and this 'Internet bandh' decreases productivity
>> further.
>>
>> May be ISPs will also publish a schedule of the bandh like NEA does, so
>> that we can plan our work accordingly.
>>
>> thanks
>>
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> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:24:48 +0545
> From: Vicky Shrestha <vickysh at wlink.com.np>
> Subject: Re: [Sysops-list] Finally-Internet Bandh
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> I believe this should serve as a message to everybody , not just the
> government. People stayed quiet for too long, time to voice our
> concerns. ISPs were targeted as victim by both army and the maoist.
> Yes bandh is definitely not the brightest of all ideas, it is true we
> should look for better alternatives. But can we go down to the
> streets, definitely not, Can we DDos the Government and Maoist
> network ?? not viable and not much damage to the guilty? What else
> can we do ?
>
> Voicing our concerns in all public nepalese websites looks like a
> good idea, any more we can think about. Remember we are empowered by
> knowledge and not guns :)
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Vicky Shrestha
> vickysh at wlink.com.np
>
> On Mar 20, 2007, at 12:09 PM, Kishor Panth wrote:
>
>> I
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:29:19 +0545
> From: Kishor Panth <kishor at lahai.com>
> Subject: [Sysops-list] Internet Outage and ISPs support
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> Hello all
>                  I just wanted to remind you that its like the same 
> situation
> like the kings took over clamped down the internet and the communication,
> only difference is that it was for a week and this is for a couple of 
> hours
> per day.
>
> Have any one noticed that what message will it go through the 
> international
> community on the regard of this and as all of us are aware that with this
> there is no or very less effect to the concern departments, whose 
> attention
> we are suppose to attract.
>
> I feel that there are other different ways of protesting as regard with 
> the
> communication.
>
> In this age of communication clamping the Internet is the worse form of
> support as all of us know that there are lot of private , please note not
> government business relied on Internet .
>
>
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> kishor at lahai dot com
> +977-9851053824
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:19:55 +0530
> From: Probin <p.probin at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Sysops-list] Internet Outage and ISPs support
> To: sysops-list at npix.net.np
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> I totally agree with you. A very irresponsible move for an organization 
> like
> ISPAN. I know they  understand it might be as futile as you have explained
> it to be. But its like, try it out, what the hell if it doesn't work. 
> After
> all nobody has to pay for the losses incurred. I wont be surprised if this
> is extended for weeks in a row.
>
> probin
>
> On 3/20/07, Kishor Panth <kishor at lahai.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all
>>                   I just wanted to remind you that its like the same
>> situation
>> like the kings took over clamped down the internet and the communication,
>> only difference is that it was for a week and this is for a couple of
>> hours
>> per day.
>>
>> Have any one noticed that what message will it go through the
>> international
>> community on the regard of this and as all of us are aware that with this
>> there is no or very less effect to the concern departments, whose
>> attention
>> we are suppose to attract.
>>
>> I feel that there are other different ways of protesting as regard with
>> the
>> communication.
>>
>> In this age of communication clamping the Internet is the worse form of
>> support as all of us know that there are lot of private , please note not
>> government business relied on Internet .
>>
>>
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>> +977-9851053824
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 00:39:33 +0545
> From: "Bipin Gautam" <bipin.gautam at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Sysops-list] Finally-Internet Bandh
> To: "Vicky Shrestha" <vickysh at wlink.com.np>
> Cc: sysops-list at npix.net.np
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> On 3/20/07, Vicky Shrestha <vickysh at wlink.com.np> wrote:
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>> Voicing our concerns in all public nepalese websites looks like a
>> good idea, any more we can think about. Remember we are empowered by
>> knowledge and not guns :)
>>
>
> maybe, create a forum/mailing list for online discussion for everyones
> participation on such national agendas and email the meaningful
> summary of the discussion to ALL of its customers and express
> concerns. ;)
>
> This could be as powerful as the media where everyone can raise voice,
> seriously!
> -bipin
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